Letter: Lobkowicz on Meeting with Cardinal Spellman
This is an excerpt of a diplomatic report by Count Erwin Lobkowicz, the NDH Ambassador to the Vatican, on a meeting he had with Cardinal Francis Spellman, the Archbishop of New York. The meeting was held on March 6, 1943 - at the height of the war against the Axis powers. Spellman would later petition Presidents Roosevelt and Truman in defense of Archbishop Stepinac.

 

... Spellman received us very politely and said straight away: "There's not much you can tell me about your affairs that I don't know. I'm well informed on everything and know the Croatian Question well. A few years ago I traveled through your country and even then the difference between Belgrade and Zemun, not to mention Zagreb, told me enough. There are two worlds. They cannot co-exist."

We pointed out [that is Lobkowicz and his Jesuit secretary Wurster] that the present Croatian State is in the position of being the advanced guard of Catholicism and Western civilization towards the East and that the frontier on the Drina guarantees the maintenance of the Catholic position in that sector; and that any kind of re-establishment of Yugoslavia would mean not only the annihilation of the Croat people but also of Catholicism and Western culture in those regions. Instead of a western frontier on the Drina, we would have a Byzantine frontier on the Alps. Spellman agreed with these observations and added that President Roosevelt wants freedom for all peoples and that Croats certainly won't be excluded.

He added that he is personally doing as much as he can for us, but that we have many enemies and that one against many can't do much. He is very satisfied with Croats in his bishopric, both priests and believers. He pointed out again that he is very well informed about us, partly through the secretary of the archbishop of Zagreb, Dr. Lackovic, who also visited him. He was given the Gray Book and the remaining copy of the Ustase Principles in Latin. - He leafed through the books with interest and asked: "Does President Roosevelt have this?" We replied that he probably doesn't have it. He then said that we could have delivered this to Roosevelt's ambassador in Vatican, Tittman. He had forgotten that our country, the NDH, is at war with the USA, and that we cannot have any contact with Roosevelt. I explained this to him, and he understood, but from his attitude I have the impression that he will deliver the book and the Ustase Principles to President Roosevelt himself.

 

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Title: Letter: Lobkowicz on Meeting with Cardinal Spellman
Source: Diplomatic report by Count Erwin Lobkowicz, NDH Ambassador to the Vatican. Quoted in Falconi, Carlo. The Silence of Pius XII, pp. 371-372. Also Novak, Viktor. Magnum Crimen (First Edition, Zagreb 1948) p 894. Translated by Sinisa Djuric.
Date: March 6, 1943 Added: February 12, 2004